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		<title>By: Karen M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve never written before but I agree with Dick H. regarding your huge omission.

There may be 52,000 weekday San Francisco subscribers to the Chronicle, but that does not mean only 52,000 “pay” to read the paper. If a household family of four reads the Chron, isn’t the whole family “paying,” or only the check-writer? More to the point, does it really matter who in the family is paying if there are four people reading?

If there are two San Francisco readers for each S.F. subscriber (a conservative estimate, I think), then suddenly your “one in 16” payers falls to one in eight, a huge difference.

Perhaps you never considered the above because, as a news junkie, you never shared your newspaper.

I also agree with Tom H., that the Chronicle’s poor product has a great deal to do with its demise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve never written before but I agree with Dick H. regarding your huge omission.</p>
<p>There may be 52,000 weekday San Francisco subscribers to the Chronicle, but that does not mean only 52,000 “pay” to read the paper. If a household family of four reads the Chron, isn’t the whole family “paying,” or only the check-writer? More to the point, does it really matter who in the family is paying if there are four people reading?</p>
<p>If there are two San Francisco readers for each S.F. subscriber (a conservative estimate, I think), then suddenly your “one in 16” payers falls to one in eight, a huge difference.</p>
<p>Perhaps you never considered the above because, as a news junkie, you never shared your newspaper.</p>
<p>I also agree with Tom H., that the Chronicle’s poor product has a great deal to do with its demise.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Byron C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Clint, 
   Good article today. You got to the crux of problem with the news media I think but
did not expand or explore it.
 
  &quot;Today, many young people eschew newspapers in favor of niche news sites and opinionated blogs.
 It’s now possible to read only news that fits your ideology or interests.&quot;

   That last sentence warrants a lot discussion and I would like to see an op/ed from you in  the
future on it. I have friends who only listen to certain radio and T-V stations  because of the
station bias, left and right, and it only seems to make them more opinionated and passionate in
their beliefs. I myself have almost quit watching T-V, especially the news, and only listen to the radio
stations who read the news like KCBS. I am so turned off with newspapers in the East Bay that
I skim the articles quickly, read the op/ed page and move on the comics and crossword. I get more
out of the comics page than I do the so called news items. The journalism quality is not what
it used to be and there are numerous errors. Except for the advertisements....they rarely make a
mistake in the ads.
Regards,   Byron C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clint,<br />
   Good article today. You got to the crux of problem with the news media I think but<br />
did not expand or explore it.</p>
<p>  &#8220;Today, many young people eschew newspapers in favor of niche news sites and opinionated blogs.<br />
 It’s now possible to read only news that fits your ideology or interests.&#8221;</p>
<p>   That last sentence warrants a lot discussion and I would like to see an op/ed from you in  the<br />
future on it. I have friends who only listen to certain radio and T-V stations  because of the<br />
station bias, left and right, and it only seems to make them more opinionated and passionate in<br />
their beliefs. I myself have almost quit watching T-V, especially the news, and only listen to the radio<br />
stations who read the news like KCBS. I am so turned off with newspapers in the East Bay that<br />
I skim the articles quickly, read the op/ed page and move on the comics and crossword. I get more<br />
out of the comics page than I do the so called news items. The journalism quality is not what<br />
it used to be and there are numerous errors. Except for the advertisements&#8230;.they rarely make a<br />
mistake in the ads.<br />
Regards,   Byron C</p>
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		<title>By: Antonia L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonia L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Clint:
 
Who instigated the removal of civics courses from the public schools curriculum?
 
When?
 
Why?
 
Sincerely,
Antonia L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Clint:</p>
<p>Who instigated the removal of civics courses from the public schools curriculum?</p>
<p>When?</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Antonia L</p>
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		<title>By: Tom H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed your article.  Regarding the SF Chronicle, however, you missed and/or avoided the real issue:  a poor product always loses market share &amp; eventually fails.  The digital age isn&#039;t what&#039;s killing the Chronicle.  The Chronicle&#039;s product and management are what&#039;s killing the paper.  

Sure, there&#039;s the larger question of how newspapers fit into a world where everyone will increasingly rely in digital solutions for their news.  But that&#039;s a challenge all newspapers face, some much more successfully than others.  For example, as a subscriber to the Wall St. Journal online since the mid-90s when I was one of their first 50 pilot customers, I&#039;ve learned first-hand that I don&#039;t need the feel of newsprint in my hands to stay informed (and I&#039;m an old baby boomer).  The demand for news hasn&#039;t subsided, just the way we consume it.  Smart news organizations get that and they evolve.  

I&#039;ve been a consummate consumer of news media all my life, since my journalism days in Iowa and later as an international ad exec.  I&#039;ve lived in markets where newspapers have always been political mouthpieces (especially in their front page &#039;news&#039; articles, not just op-ed pages).  Also, we Americans have been grossly mislead to believe that our news journalism was ever very unbiased.  Any serious student of history will know that&#039;s never been the case.  

As a social moderate, fiscal conservative, I was never a great fan of the SF Chronicle (or the NY Times), but I read them as part of my mantra to try to stay objective and &#039;informed&#039;.  If I want objectivity, I go to The Economist or any number of international papers who get their news coverage from somewhat less biased sources -- although I&#039;ve found none that are without bias.

When I moved to the Bay Area in the late 90s, I naturally subscribed to the Chronicle.  I&#039;ve since canceled my subscription and don&#039;t even bother to refer to their online service any more.  Why?  The product, while not great to start with, has eroded to a point where I could no longer tolerate reading the paper.  The often radical political bent of so many so-called hard news stories is offensive and certainly violates my trust in trying to stay informed.  The content and format of the paper has increasingly tuned out a broad swath of the public and reduced the Chronicle to the radical rag they&#039;ve molded themselves into.  They simply misread their market, alienated too many customers with a poor product that exudes a political bias that appeals to a much slimmer base that they think.  Couple bad marketing with a poor product and the Chronicle&#039;s woes should surprise no one.    

So, two key reasons for the Chronicle&#039;s demise in the face of other papers which remain relatively unscathed:  1) poor product, poorly written, poorly presented, very little pretense of any objective news coverage; and 2) it has ignored fundamental marketing and no longer appeals to a vast portion of potential customers within it&#039;s catchment area.  I for one, wish the Chronicle a speedy demise along with its holier-than-thou pretensions.  Perhaps out of the ashes will rise a product that better serves the real market demand in a more responsible and less biased way.  That&#039;s what our free-market system is all about.  

Your article did a disservice by not including some reference or speculation to why the Chronicle is faring so much worse than almost every other major daily in the nation.  To suggest that their woes are simply the result of the digital age is, I believe, incorrect and irresponsible.  You may or may not agree with my assessment, but please at least don&#039;t avoid addressing the elephant in the room. 

I enjoy reading your articles, whether or not I agree with you -- which I usually do not.  Nevertheless, they&#039;re well-written and usually do a credible job of advancing an idea in a thoughtful, reflective manner.

Best regards,
Tom H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed your article.  Regarding the SF Chronicle, however, you missed and/or avoided the real issue:  a poor product always loses market share &amp; eventually fails.  The digital age isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s killing the Chronicle.  The Chronicle&#8217;s product and management are what&#8217;s killing the paper.  </p>
<p>Sure, there&#8217;s the larger question of how newspapers fit into a world where everyone will increasingly rely in digital solutions for their news.  But that&#8217;s a challenge all newspapers face, some much more successfully than others.  For example, as a subscriber to the Wall St. Journal online since the mid-90s when I was one of their first 50 pilot customers, I&#8217;ve learned first-hand that I don&#8217;t need the feel of newsprint in my hands to stay informed (and I&#8217;m an old baby boomer).  The demand for news hasn&#8217;t subsided, just the way we consume it.  Smart news organizations get that and they evolve.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a consummate consumer of news media all my life, since my journalism days in Iowa and later as an international ad exec.  I&#8217;ve lived in markets where newspapers have always been political mouthpieces (especially in their front page &#8216;news&#8217; articles, not just op-ed pages).  Also, we Americans have been grossly mislead to believe that our news journalism was ever very unbiased.  Any serious student of history will know that&#8217;s never been the case.  </p>
<p>As a social moderate, fiscal conservative, I was never a great fan of the SF Chronicle (or the NY Times), but I read them as part of my mantra to try to stay objective and &#8216;informed&#8217;.  If I want objectivity, I go to The Economist or any number of international papers who get their news coverage from somewhat less biased sources &#8212; although I&#8217;ve found none that are without bias.</p>
<p>When I moved to the Bay Area in the late 90s, I naturally subscribed to the Chronicle.  I&#8217;ve since canceled my subscription and don&#8217;t even bother to refer to their online service any more.  Why?  The product, while not great to start with, has eroded to a point where I could no longer tolerate reading the paper.  The often radical political bent of so many so-called hard news stories is offensive and certainly violates my trust in trying to stay informed.  The content and format of the paper has increasingly tuned out a broad swath of the public and reduced the Chronicle to the radical rag they&#8217;ve molded themselves into.  They simply misread their market, alienated too many customers with a poor product that exudes a political bias that appeals to a much slimmer base that they think.  Couple bad marketing with a poor product and the Chronicle&#8217;s woes should surprise no one.    </p>
<p>So, two key reasons for the Chronicle&#8217;s demise in the face of other papers which remain relatively unscathed:  1) poor product, poorly written, poorly presented, very little pretense of any objective news coverage; and 2) it has ignored fundamental marketing and no longer appeals to a vast portion of potential customers within it&#8217;s catchment area.  I for one, wish the Chronicle a speedy demise along with its holier-than-thou pretensions.  Perhaps out of the ashes will rise a product that better serves the real market demand in a more responsible and less biased way.  That&#8217;s what our free-market system is all about.  </p>
<p>Your article did a disservice by not including some reference or speculation to why the Chronicle is faring so much worse than almost every other major daily in the nation.  To suggest that their woes are simply the result of the digital age is, I believe, incorrect and irresponsible.  You may or may not agree with my assessment, but please at least don&#8217;t avoid addressing the elephant in the room. </p>
<p>I enjoy reading your articles, whether or not I agree with you &#8212; which I usually do not.  Nevertheless, they&#8217;re well-written and usually do a credible job of advancing an idea in a thoughtful, reflective manner.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Tom H</p>
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		<title>By: Bob K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning, Clint.
 
Although we are at different poles of the political spectrum, I always enjoy your columns.
 
I started to read the Chronicle in the mid fifties, when I was a student at Berkeley.  Later,  I moved to S.F.  Later more, to Marin.  The columnists you note were dear to me, especially McCabe.   Herb printed three of my submissions, and of course gave me credit, as he always did.  The Chronicle kindly published a lot of my letters to the editor over the years.  It was a lot of fun for me. 
 
In later years these column giants were gone.  I eventually I became weary of the Chronicle’s heavy focus on gay/lesbian issues.  It seemed to crowd out news that would be more interesting to me.   I am OK with the gay lesbians, but have no more interest in a gay lesbian newspaper than I would, for example, a vegetarian or nudist newspaper.  So, a couple of years ago I cancelled,  terminating a fifty year tradition,  with sadness.  I followed Matier &amp; Ross in the website for a while, but this required remembering to do it, and so fell by the wayside.
 
Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
 
Best, Bob K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning, Clint.</p>
<p>Although we are at different poles of the political spectrum, I always enjoy your columns.</p>
<p>I started to read the Chronicle in the mid fifties, when I was a student at Berkeley.  Later,  I moved to S.F.  Later more, to Marin.  The columnists you note were dear to me, especially McCabe.   Herb printed three of my submissions, and of course gave me credit, as he always did.  The Chronicle kindly published a lot of my letters to the editor over the years.  It was a lot of fun for me. </p>
<p>In later years these column giants were gone.  I eventually I became weary of the Chronicle’s heavy focus on gay/lesbian issues.  It seemed to crowd out news that would be more interesting to me.   I am OK with the gay lesbians, but have no more interest in a gay lesbian newspaper than I would, for example, a vegetarian or nudist newspaper.  So, a couple of years ago I cancelled,  terminating a fifty year tradition,  with sadness.  I followed Matier &amp; Ross in the website for a while, but this required remembering to do it, and so fell by the wayside.</p>
<p>Thanks for the trip down memory lane.</p>
<p>Best, Bob K</p>
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		<title>By: Roger B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Clint,I  just read your latest report regarding the &quot;exaggerated&quot;
death of print news. Like you, I have depended on traditional
newspapers for news information and entertainment for most of my life.
The I used to check the want- ad section regularly as well. When the
ad section started becoming smaller, from many pages to a few then
none,it became apparent that the paper that I had enjoyed for so long
and taken for granted was going away. I still subscribe to 2 papers ;
consequently
I am able to read your column, which I look fore ward to and share
with my wife and friends who will listen to me as I try to spread your
knowledge and experience with them.Even though I prefer reading a
paper and worry about the conveyance of reliable information without
them , I have found that as the N Y Times, Chronicle, etc. are
available on line; the news is still there. However, your message is
only in my local  paper the San Rafael I.J.! Keep up the good work!
Roger B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Clint,I  just read your latest report regarding the &#8220;exaggerated&#8221;<br />
death of print news. Like you, I have depended on traditional<br />
newspapers for news information and entertainment for most of my life.<br />
The I used to check the want- ad section regularly as well. When the<br />
ad section started becoming smaller, from many pages to a few then<br />
none,it became apparent that the paper that I had enjoyed for so long<br />
and taken for granted was going away. I still subscribe to 2 papers ;<br />
consequently<br />
I am able to read your column, which I look fore ward to and share<br />
with my wife and friends who will listen to me as I try to spread your<br />
knowledge and experience with them.Even though I prefer reading a<br />
paper and worry about the conveyance of reliable information without<br />
them , I have found that as the N Y Times, Chronicle, etc. are<br />
available on line; the news is still there. However, your message is<br />
only in my local  paper the San Rafael I.J.! Keep up the good work!<br />
Roger B</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy your column.
Keep writing.
I usually agree with your point of view, but not always.
Still, your facts &amp; reasoning help me with forming my own opinion and with understanding the issues.
Thanks for your help.
 
Sincerely,
Nancy H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy your column.<br />
Keep writing.<br />
I usually agree with your point of view, but not always.<br />
Still, your facts &amp; reasoning help me with forming my own opinion and with understanding the issues.<br />
Thanks for your help.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Nancy H</p>
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		<title>By: Dick H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Tuesday 6/1/2010 column contained a huge omission not at all uncommon among journalists.  You claim a loss in Chron subscribers but don&#039;t tell us the absolute numbers or the percentage drop in reader numbers.  The current subscriber numbers you show mean nothing.  What is the trend in readership and what could be the cause?
 
What journalists need is more education in statistics, economics, business, etc..  What the media needs is tougher editing so the public can believe what they read.  Thank you.
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Dick H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Tuesday 6/1/2010 column contained a huge omission not at all uncommon among journalists.  You claim a loss in Chron subscribers but don&#8217;t tell us the absolute numbers or the percentage drop in reader numbers.  The current subscriber numbers you show mean nothing.  What is the trend in readership and what could be the cause?</p>
<p>What journalists need is more education in statistics, economics, business, etc..  What the media needs is tougher editing so the public can believe what they read.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Dick H</p>
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		<title>By: melinda maginn</title>
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		<dc:creator>melinda maginn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t read a single newspaper in print...all online.   WSJ, SF Gate and NY Times, all online.  I avoid like the plague Fox News and Olbermann and haven&#039;t seen a local newscast in years.  I avoid CNN and MSNBC as well.

I give as much as I can to KQED and NPR.  NPR gives me all the stories I missed on Radio through Facebook.  It&#039;s a changing world indeed.  The 24/7 news cycle has proven deadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t read a single newspaper in print&#8230;all online.   WSJ, SF Gate and NY Times, all online.  I avoid like the plague Fox News and Olbermann and haven&#8217;t seen a local newscast in years.  I avoid CNN and MSNBC as well.</p>
<p>I give as much as I can to KQED and NPR.  NPR gives me all the stories I missed on Radio through Facebook.  It&#8217;s a changing world indeed.  The 24/7 news cycle has proven deadly.</p>
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